Should Kobe be involved in the G.O.A.T conversation?

Whenever the G.O.A.T conversation comes up in the NBA people talk about Lebron James and Micheal Jordan but are we forgetting someone?

Oh yeah maybe the guy by the name of Kobe Bryant (otherwise known as the “Black Mamba”)!

How could we not include a guy who led his team to 5 NBA championships and along the way collecting two finals MVPs? Oh, and by the way, he’s third on the all-time scoring list in the NBA.

Kobe not being in the G.O.A.T conversation was recently brought up by his former teammate Shaq. When asked about people leaving Kobe’s name out of the G.O.A.T discussion he politely responded “I don’t understand that. Because I was there with him, and he was a bad mother—-er too”. Shaq’s comment created a buzz in the media and for good reason. I mean even Micheal Jordan said Kobe could beat him one on one. 

So why is Kobe left out of the conversation?

Kobe has all of the stats and accolades to put him in the G.O.A.T conversation. Kobe was a 2-time scoring champ, was 12 times all-defense, and an 18-time all-star compared to Lebron’s 1-time scoring champ, 6 times all-defense, and 14-time all-star. Now I get that Lebron is still playing, but there are no guarantees he’ll get any more trophies with all the new faces in the NBA such as James Harden, Kevin Durant, and Giannis Antetokounmpo. Lebron certainly won’t get anymore scoring titles if James Harden keeps putting up the numbers he puts up on a nightly basis.

Then there is Micheal Jordan who without a doubt deserves to be in the G.O.A.T conversation, but still, Kobe’s numbers compare to Micheal Jordan’s. Kobe has more all-defensive titles and more All-Star experiences than Micheal Jordan. People might say strong defense doesn’t matter in the NBA but when it comes playoff time it matters a whole lot more.

Besides all of the stats and trophies, what made Kobe standout was his passion and determination to be the best to play the game. Kobe was so determined that he even considered leaving the Lakers because people said he could only win because of Shaq. That’s crazy talk nowadays with everyone joining superteams to try and win a championship even one of the G.O.A.T conversation members joined a super team (Lebron James).  Kobe just did the opposite. He went on to win three titles without Shaq and beat a super-team in the 2010 Boston Celtics who had Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen.

Even up to Kobe’s last game he showed his heart and toughness by scoring 60 points against the Utah Jazz. That mamba mentality is what puts him in the G.O.A.T conversation. Kobe had that same fight and heart in him as Micheal Jordan did. I’m not saying he’s better than Lebron or Micheal, but he certainly needs to be included amongst these two players. If you disagree with me, watch the videos below and then say Kobe shouldn’t be in the G.O.A.T discussion.


  1. NBA Fact Checker

    Ok lets start of with this, Kobe was 4th in the all time now, how can a man with only 1 mvp be considered the GOAT, exactly he can´t in this case Giannis already has a case for the Goat.
    Also you said he won 3 rings without Shaq, wrong he won 2. And based on the video of Micheal Jordan, saying Lebron is better than Kobe, who is more efficent, who averages more ppg, apg, rpg, who has more finals mvps regular season mvps, yeah exactly. MJ said that but if Rings is the only thing that matters then Shouldnt the second best defender and rebounder of all time be the GOAT he has more MVPs and 6 more rings than Kobe too, Think before you post a baseless claim, and add to that he wasnt even the best player on his team for 3 rings, MJ and Lebron were always the best, so do not put Kobe up there with all those greats

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